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- Scritto da: Giambo
>
> - Scritto da: Mensab
>
> > > > sarebbe funzionato benissimo se avessero
> > > > continuato a testarlo
> > > >
> > >
> > > Beh, dato un tempo infinito ...
> >
> > si hanno infiniti risultati
>
> E infiniti FAIL
>


è per quello che i sovietici facevano tutto in doppia copia
(e poi si scrive отчаяние)


> > > All cagnetta Layka piaceva tenere il muso
> fuori
> > > dal finestrino mentre si viaggia
> > > ...
> >
> > peccato soffrisse in po' il caldo
>
>
>



> > > > vogliamo parlare di venere allora?
> > >
> > > Se gli ienchi avessero trovato minimamente
> > > interessante Venere, avrebbero mandato una
> sonda
> > > che avrebbe trasmesso per piu' di qualche
> > secondo
> > >
> >
> > seeee seeee, ma quale secondo?
> > le uniche foto in bianco e nero e della
> > superficie, pià le mappe radar altimetriche e
> > quasi due ore di trasmissioni ti sembrano poco?
> >
>
> Tralasciando il fatto che una mezza dozzina di
> sonde sono andate "perse" prima di atterrare, la
> rimanente mezza dozzina ha raccolto meno dati di
> una sola Viking su Marte
>
>

per forza: gli americani pezzenti mandavano aggiggi grandi come scatole da scarpe o al massimo barili, mentre i sovietici erano abituati a lanciare aggeggi enormi di metallo pieni di serbatoi antenne e cavi da svariate tonnellate!
e poi le viking facevano ridere in confronto alle Lunokhod

> > > Ma parliamo pure di Marte o dei due Voyager
> (Non
> > > Booyager) se vuoi
> > >
> >
> > si si, parliamo pure di marte: Mars Climate
> > Orbiter?
>
> Maledetto sistema metrico decimale !!!
>

contano ancora con iarde, sassi, piedi e pollici....che popolazione primitiva!

- Scritto da: Giambo
>
> - Scritto da: Mensab
>
> > > Sopratutto quando non sei capace a costruire
> dei
> > > motori abbastanza grandi: Ne appiccichi
> assieme
> > > qualche dozzina e speri nel meglio ... Peccato
> > > che la Failure-Rate e' stata del 100%
> > >
> >
> > sarebbe funzionato benissimo se avessero
> > continuato a testarlo
> >
>
> Beh, dato un tempo infinito ...
>

si hanno infiniti risultati

> > > > i sovietici erano tutti addestrati a
> > trattenere
> > > > il fiato a lungo, non come quei pappemolli
> > degli
> > > > ienchi
> > > >
> > >
> > > Evidentemente Georgi Dobrovolski, Viktor
> > Pazajev
> > > e Vladislav Volkov hanno marinato
> > l'addestramento
> > > prima di salire sulla Soyuz 11
> > >
> >
> > hey, gli era stato detto di non tenere il
> > finestrino abbassato nel rientro, se non hanno
> > voluto ascoltare...
>
> All cagnetta Layka piaceva tenere il muso fuori
> dal finestrino mentre si viaggia
> ...
>

peccato soffrisse in po' il caldo

> > > > con tutti i cessi che hanno mandato in
> orbita
> > > gli
> > > > USA forse sarebbe anche servito
> > > >
> > >
> > > I cessi USA sono arrivati li' dove nessun
> > > sovietbear e' mai arrivato
> > > !
> >
> > ah, davvero?
> > vogliamo parlare di venere allora?
>
> Se gli ienchi avessero trovato minimamente
> interessante Venere, avrebbero mandato una sonda
> che avrebbe trasmesso per piu' di qualche secondo
>

seeee seeee, ma quale secondo?
le uniche foto in bianco e nero e della superficie, pià le mappe radar altimetriche e quasi due ore di trasmissioni ti sembrano poco?

> Ma parliamo pure di Marte o dei due Voyager (Non
> Booyager) se vuoi
>
>

si si, parliamo pure di marte: Mars Climate Orbiter?

> > > > cosa mai successa, tra l'altro...ad oggi non
> > ci
> > > > sono mai stati "dispersi"
> > > >
> > >
> > > Dimentichi "Major Tom", come spiega Peter
> > > Schilling
> > > ...
> >
> > ma non era david bowie?
>
> Si, Schilling si e' "agganciato" dopo ...

- Scritto da: Giambo
>
> - Scritto da: Mensab
>
> > > Seee, seee, blah blah, intanto chi ha
> > passeggiato
> > > sul suolo lunare, eh
> > > ?
> >
> > apparte il fatto che nessuno è mai andato sulla
> > luna,
>
> Secondo te Kubrick, perfezionista com'era, non e'
> mai andato sulla luna per meglio allestire il set
> degli sbarchi sulla terra
> ?

mmmm, geniale com'era in effetti potrebbe esserci andato per filmare un po' di background da riciclare a terra per inscenare lo sbarco!

> > i russi hanno avuto solo qualche piccolo
> > contrattempo di natura esplosiva, sennò
> > c'arrivavano prima (o quantomeno
> > c'arrivavano).
>
> "Qualche contrattempo" mi pare un'eufemismo,
> quando non sono mai riusciti a far decollare il
> loro "bricollage" di N1
>
>

32 motori is megl che 5

> > e in maniera spettacolarmente semplice:
> >
> [img]http://www.geocities.com/danimir.geo/LK-6.GIF
>
> Monoposto, e per entrarci era necessario uscire
> dal modulo
> !
>

però aveva l'autoradio di serie e i sedili in similpelle! e poi troppe comodità fanno male allo spirito avventuriero dei cosmonauti!

> > > Chi ha fatto volare shuttle per 30 anni, altro
> > > che "Буран", eh
>
> > > ?
> >
> > pfui, solo perchè i russi non avevano i soldi
> per
> > pagare il bollo non significa che il loro
> shuttle
> > fosse migliore,
> > anzi.
>
> A copiare son capaci tutti, maledetti linari
> comunisti
> !

rosik

> > Буран ha fotto il
> > volo inaugurale completamente in automatico, è
> > partito, è tornato e si è parcheggiato da
> > solo!
>
> Si, ma con meta' dell'elettronica a bordo, e
> senza supporti vitali ...

i sovietici erano tutti addestrati a trattenere il fiato a lungo, non come quei pappemolli degli ienchi

> Tanto vale sparare un
> Rotolone Regina in orbita
>
>

con tutti i cessi che hanno mandato in orbita gli USA forse sarebbe anche servito

> > si, ricordiamo gli intrepidi astronauti periti
> > dal ritorno del volo tra le stelle...e anche
> > quelli mai partiti, perchènnò!
> >
>
> Certo che piuttosto che morire soffocato al
> rientro o bruciato sulla rampa in una
> simulazione, avrei preferito morire
> "su-e-in-alto", e vagare per sempre nello spazio
> profondo
> ...

cosa mai successa, tra l'altro...ad oggi non ci sono mai stati "dispersi"

- Scritto da: Giambo
>
> - Scritto da: Mensab
>
> > tuttavia Мир era più...
> > rustica, spartana... bella!
> >
>
> Skylab ruleZ !

pffffffff giocattolo ienchi
salyout 7 ruleZ
per non parlare delle almaz, che erano armate a differenza di quelle dei babbei ramboidali degli ammerigani

- Scritto da: Lavvy
> puppatemi la fava
>