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    il 2011-09-14 07:30:00.0 alle 2011-09-14 07:30:00.0
    Spezie x anonignorante
    http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/excerpt2.html

    Historians have tried to explain this powerful medieval appetite for spices by pointing to the prevalence of inadequate food-preserving techniques. Pepper together with salt, it was said , was the chief means of preservation, of keeping the meat of cattle, slaughtered in the fall, edible throughout the winter. The other spices, according the this explanation, served to make spoiled meat edible again. This is hardly convincing, for spices imported from the Orient were among the most precious substances known in the Middle Ages. That is why they were the prerogative of the upper classes. To limit their function to food preservation and explain their use solely in these terms would be like calling champagne a good thirst quencher. Salt served very well as a meat preservative in the Middle Ages; and there were suitable native herbs which were also used by the poorer people to make spoiled meat palatable.

    Capito fallito?
    Questo è tedesco non americano così non hai la scusa dell'"americano ignorante" (cit). Rotola dal ridere
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      il 2011-09-14 09:43:00.0 alle 2011-09-14 09:43:00.0
      Re: Spezie x anonignorante

      - Scritto da:
      > http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/excerpt2.html
      >
      > Historians have tried to explain this powerful
      > medieval appetite for spices by pointing to the
      > prevalence of inadequate food-preserving
      > techniques. Pepper together with salt, it was
      > said , was the chief means of preservation, of
      > keeping the meat of cattle, slaughtered in the
      > fall, edible throughout the winter. The other
      > spices, according the this explanation, served to
      > make spoiled meat edible again. This is hardly
      > convincing, for spices imported from the Orient
      > were among the most precious substances known in
      > the Middle Ages.       That is why they were the
      > prerogative of the upper classes      . To limit
      > their function to food preservation and explain
      > their use solely in these terms would be like
      > calling champagne a good thirst quencher. Salt
      > served very well as a meat preservative       in
      > the Middle Ages; and there were suitable
      > native herbs which were also used by the poorer
      > people to make spoiled meat
      > palatable      .
      >
      > Capito fallito?
      > Questo è tedesco non americano così non hai la
      > scusa dell'"americano ignorante" (cit).
      > Rotola dal ridere

      Come vedi ne parla come di una sua ipotesi, esprime un dubbio, non ne parla come di un fatto storicamente certo. Inoltre dice che però il pepe (che è una spezia e quindi già questo cancella la teoria secondo cui le spezie erano praticamente inutili) era usato per preservare il cibo, esprime dubbi sulle altre per via del loro costo.
      Fallito, ignorante ecc.. e alla fine hai tirato fuori solo questo passando chissà quanto tempo a cercare? Ma Rotola dal ridere
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        il 2011-09-14 11:34:00.0 alle 2011-09-14 11:34:00.0
        Re: Spezie x anonignorante

        - Scritto da:
        >
        > - Scritto da:
        > > http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/excerpt2.html
        > >
        > > Historians have tried to explain this powerful
        > > medieval appetite for spices by pointing to the
        > > prevalence of inadequate food-preserving
        > > techniques. Pepper together with salt, it was
        > > said , was the chief means of preservation, of
        > > keeping the meat of cattle, slaughtered in the
        > > fall, edible throughout the winter. The other
        > > spices, according the this explanation, served
        > to
        > > make spoiled meat edible again. This is
        > hardly
        > > convincing, for spices imported from the Orient
        > > were among the most precious substances known in
        > > the Middle Ages.         That is why they were
        > the
        > > prerogative of the upper classes. To limit
        > > their function to food preservation and explain
        > > their use solely in these terms would be like
        > > calling champagne a good thirst quencher.
        > Salt
        > > served very well as a meat preservative in
        > > the Middle Ages; and there were suitable
        > > native herbs which were also used by the poorer
        > > people to make spoiled meat
        > > palatable        .
        > >
        > > Capito fallito?
        > > Questo è tedesco non americano così non hai la
        > > scusa dell'"americano ignorante" (cit).
        > > Rotola dal ridere
        >
        > Come vedi ne parla come di una sua ipotesi,
        > esprime un dubbio, non ne parla come di un fatto
        > storicamente certo. Inoltre dice che però il pepe
        > (che è una spezia e quindi già questo cancella la
        > teoria secondo cui le spezie erano praticamente
        > inutili) era usato per preservare il cibo,
        > esprime dubbi sulle altre per via del loro
        > costo.
        > Fallito, ignorante ecc.. e alla fine hai tirato
        > fuori solo questo passando

        Una ipotesi? Rotola dal ridere
        Si, come è una ipotesi che non usassero sassi lunari. COGLIONE. Rotola dal ridere

        They were presented as gifts of state, and were bequeathed together with other heirlooms; in fact, pepper frequently took the place of gold as a means of payment.

        Li usavano per conservare la carne.
        Che bestia ignorante! A bocca aperta

        > chissà quanto tempo a
        > cercare? Ma
        > Rotola dal ridere

        2 minuti, è nella prima pagina dei risultati di Google se cerchi "spice middle age", al 5 posto.
        IGNORANTE.
        Manco questa avevi trovato. Rotola dal ridere
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          il 2011-09-14 12:20:00.0 alle 2011-09-14 12:20:00.0
          Re: Spezie x anonignorante

          - Scritto da:
          >
          > - Scritto da:
          > >
          > > - Scritto da:
          > > >
          > http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/excerpt2.html
          > > >
          > > > Historians have tried to explain this powerful
          > > > medieval appetite for spices by pointing to
          > the
          > > > prevalence of inadequate food-preserving
          > > > techniques. Pepper together with salt, it was
          > > > said , was the chief means of preservation, of
          > > > keeping the meat of cattle, slaughtered in the
          > > > fall, edible throughout the winter. The other
          > > > spices, according the this explanation, served
          > > to
          > > > make spoiled meat edible again. This is
          > > hardly
          > > > convincing, for spices imported from the
          > Orient
          > > > were among the most precious substances known
          > in
          > > > the Middle Ages. That is why they were
          > > the
          > > > prerogative of the upper classes. To limit
          > > > their function to food preservation and
          > explain
          > > > their use solely in these terms would be like
          > > > calling champagne a good thirst quencher.
          > > Salt
          > > > served very well as a meat preservative in
          > > > the Middle Ages; and there were suitable
          > > > native herbs which were also used by the
          > poorer
          > > > people to make spoiled meat
          > > > palatable          .
          > > >
          > > > Capito fallito?
          > > > Questo è tedesco non americano così non hai la
          > > > scusa dell'"americano ignorante" (cit).
          > > > Rotola dal ridere
          > >
          > > Come vedi ne parla come di una sua ipotesi,
          > > esprime un dubbio, non ne parla come di un
          > fatto
          > > storicamente certo. Inoltre dice che però il
          > pepe
          > > (che è una spezia e quindi già questo cancella
          > la
          > > teoria secondo cui le spezie erano praticamente
          > > inutili) era usato per preservare il cibo,
          > > esprime dubbi sulle altre per via del loro
          > > costo.
          > > Fallito, ignorante ecc.. e alla fine hai tirato
          > > fuori solo questo passando
          >
          > Una ipotesi? Rotola dal ridere
          > Si, come è una ipotesi che non usassero sassi
          > lunari. COGLIONE.
          > Rotola dal ridere
          >
          > They were presented as gifts of state, and
          > were bequeathed together with other heirlooms; in
          > fact, pepper frequently took the place of gold
          > as a means of
          > payment          .
          >
          > Li usavano per conservare la carne.
          > Che bestia ignorante! A bocca aperta
          >
          > > chissà quanto tempo a
          > > cercare? Ma
          > > Rotola dal ridere
          >
          > 2 minuti, è nella prima pagina dei risultati di
          > Google se cerchi "spice middle age", al 5
          > posto.
          > IGNORANTE.
          > Manco questa avevi trovato. Rotola dal ridere

          lo vuoi capire che le interpretazioni della scuola americana non contano un cazzo?

          le ricette dei salumi moderni provengono tutte dal medioevo e la loro preparazione prevede l'utilizzo di spezie

          mai sentito parlare di panpepato?

          ma no, ovviamente usavano il pepe come i grani di cacao in mesoamerica

          ma un minimo di senso critico nei confronti delle cazzate sparate dai soliti americani no vero?

          anzi no, meglio di no, impiccatevi direttamente
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      il 2011-09-14 11:05:00.0 alle 2011-09-14 11:05:00.0
      Re: Spezie x anonignorante

      - Scritto da:
      > http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/excerpt2.html
      >
      > Historians have tried to explain this powerful
      > medieval appetite for spices by pointing to the
      > prevalence of inadequate food-preserving
      > techniques. Pepper together with salt, it was
      > said , was the chief means of preservation, of
      > keeping the meat of cattle, slaughtered in the
      > fall, edible throughout the winter. The other
      > spices, according the this explanation, served to
      > make spoiled meat edible again. This is hardly
      > convincing, for spices imported from the Orient
      > were among the most precious substances known in
      > the Middle Ages.       That is why they were the
      > prerogative of the upper classes      . To limit
      > their function to food preservation and explain
      > their use solely in these terms would be like
      > calling champagne a good thirst quencher. Salt
      > served very well as a meat preservative       in
      > the Middle Ages; and there were suitable
      > native herbs which were also used by the poorer
      > people to make spoiled meat
      > palatable      .
      >
      > Capito fallito?
      > Questo è tedesco non americano così non hai la
      > scusa dell'"americano ignorante" (cit).
      > Rotola dal ridere

      Wolfgang Schivelbusch (born 1941 in Berlin) is a German scholar of cultural studies, historian, and book author.

      Schivelbusch studied literature, sociology, and philosophy. He has lived in New York since 1973.

      DOUBLE EPIC FAIL
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        il 2011-09-14 11:35:00.0 alle 2011-09-14 11:35:00.0
        Re: Spezie x anonignorante

        - Scritto da:
        >
        > - Scritto da:
        > > http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/excerpt2.html
        > >
        > > Historians have tried to explain this powerful
        > > medieval appetite for spices by pointing to the
        > > prevalence of inadequate food-preserving
        > > techniques. Pepper together with salt, it was
        > > said , was the chief means of preservation, of
        > > keeping the meat of cattle, slaughtered in the
        > > fall, edible throughout the winter. The other
        > > spices, according the this explanation, served
        > to
        > > make spoiled meat edible again. This is
        > hardly
        > > convincing, for spices imported from the Orient
        > > were among the most precious substances known in
        > > the Middle Ages.         That is why they were
        > the
        > > prerogative of the upper classes. To limit
        > > their function to food preservation and explain
        > > their use solely in these terms would be like
        > > calling champagne a good thirst quencher.
        > Salt
        > > served very well as a meat preservative in
        > > the Middle Ages; and there were suitable
        > > native herbs which were also used by the poorer
        > > people to make spoiled meat
        > > palatable        .
        > >
        > > Capito fallito?
        > > Questo è tedesco non americano così non hai la
        > > scusa dell'"americano ignorante" (cit).
        > > Rotola dal ridere
        >
        > Wolfgang Schivelbusch (born 1941 in Berlin) is a
        > German scholar of cultural studies, historian,
        > and book
        > author.
        >
        > Schivelbusch studied literature, sociology, and
        > philosophy. He has lived in New York since
        > 1973.
        >
        > DOUBLE EPIC FAIL

        Quindi ora non sono solo tutti gli americani ignoranti, anche chi ci va a vivere. La tua idea di ignorante è molto vasta. Rotola dal ridere
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          il 2011-09-14 12:00:00.0 alle 2011-09-14 12:00:00.0
          Re: Spezie x anonignorante

          - Scritto da:
          >
          > - Scritto da:
          > >
          > > - Scritto da:
          > > >
          > http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/excerpt2.html
          > > >
          > > > Historians have tried to explain this powerful
          > > > medieval appetite for spices by pointing to
          > the
          > > > prevalence of inadequate food-preserving
          > > > techniques. Pepper together with salt, it was
          > > > said , was the chief means of preservation, of
          > > > keeping the meat of cattle, slaughtered in the
          > > > fall, edible throughout the winter. The other
          > > > spices, according the this explanation, served
          > > to
          > > > make spoiled meat edible again. This is
          > > hardly
          > > > convincing, for spices imported from the
          > Orient
          > > > were among the most precious substances known
          > in
          > > > the Middle Ages. That is why they were
          > > the
          > > > prerogative of the upper classes. To limit
          > > > their function to food preservation and
          > explain
          > > > their use solely in these terms would be like
          > > > calling champagne a good thirst quencher.
          > > Salt
          > > > served very well as a meat preservative in
          > > > the Middle Ages; and there were suitable
          > > > native herbs which were also used by the
          > poorer
          > > > people to make spoiled meat
          > > > palatable          .
          > > >
          > > > Capito fallito?
          > > > Questo è tedesco non americano così non hai la
          > > > scusa dell'"americano ignorante" (cit).
          > > > Rotola dal ridere
          > >
          > > Wolfgang Schivelbusch (born 1941 in Berlin) is a
          > > German scholar of cultural studies, historian,
          > > and book
          > > author.
          > >
          > > Schivelbusch studied literature, sociology, and
          > > philosophy. He has lived in New York since
          > > 1973.
          > >
          > > DOUBLE EPIC FAIL
          >
          > Quindi ora non sono solo tutti gli americani
          > ignoranti, anche chi ci va a vivere. La tua idea
          > di ignorante è molto vasta.
          > Rotola dal ridere

          la tua idea di scuola storiografica è molto vaga Rotola dal ridere
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      Daisuke Niwa
      il 2011-09-14 12:43:00.0 alle 2011-09-14 12:43:00.0
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      Re: Spezie x anonignorante

      - Scritto da:
      > http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/excerpt2.html
      >
      > Historians have tried to explain this powerful
      > medieval appetite for spices by pointing to the
      > prevalence of inadequate food-preserving
      > techniques. Pepper together with salt, it was
      > said , was the chief means of preservation, of
      > keeping the meat of cattle, slaughtered in the
      > fall, edible throughout the winter. The other
      > spices, according the this explanation, served to
      > make spoiled meat edible again. This is hardly
      > convincing, for spices imported from the Orient
      > were among the most precious substances known in
      > the Middle Ages.       That is why they were the
      > prerogative of the upper classes      . To limit
      > their function to food preservation and explain
      > their use solely in these terms would be like
      > calling champagne a good thirst quencher. Salt
      > served very well as a meat preservative       in
      > the Middle Ages; and there were suitable
      > native herbs which were also used by the poorer
      > people to make spoiled meat
      > palatable      .
      >
      > Capito fallito?
      > Questo è tedesco non americano così non hai la
      > scusa dell'"americano ignorante" (cit).
      > Rotola dal ridere

      Dice più o meno le stesse cose del libro, solo che il libro è più dettagliato.
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      il 2011-09-14 13:46:00.0 alle 2011-09-14 13:46:00.0
      Re: Spezie x anonignorante

      - Scritto da:
      > http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/excerpt2.html
      >
      > Historians have tried to explain this powerful
      > medieval appetite for spices by pointing to the
      > prevalence of inadequate food-preserving
      > techniques. Pepper together with salt, it was
      > said , was the chief means of preservation, of
      > keeping the meat of cattle, slaughtered in the
      > fall, edible throughout the winter. The other
      > spices, according the this explanation, served to
      > make spoiled meat edible again. This is hardly
      > convincing, for spices imported from the Orient
      > were among the most precious substances known in
      > the Middle Ages.       That is why they were the
      > prerogative of the upper classes      . To limit
      > their function to food preservation and explain
      > their use solely in these terms would be like
      > calling champagne a good thirst quencher. Salt
      > served very well as a meat preservative       in
      > the Middle Ages; and there were suitable
      > native herbs which were also used by the poorer
      > people to make spoiled meat
      > palatable      .
      >

      Ottimo, conferma che gli storici affermano quello che dicevo io. Lui presenta una sua ipotesi che si discosta dalla linea generale della storia Ficoso

      > Capito fallito?
      > Questo è tedesco non americano così non hai la
      > scusa dell'"americano ignorante" (cit).
      > Rotola dal ridere

      Qui hai fatto un epic FAIL come ti ha dimostrato l'altro anonimo Rotola dal ridere La prossima volta anziché cercare con Google autori di cui hai mai sentito parlare prima, parla di cose che sai e se invece non sai stai zitto che fai una figura migliore Occhiolino
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